3/15/92 -- 9:01:13 PM Opening "CHAT0315" for recording. Edited chat log. Apple // Education Forum. Guests: Power Industries, Delta Drawing Today! with Jeff Borenstein and Jock Gill! DeltaPower: Midge, did you see the piece on 'whole brain software"? DeltaPower: Right brain-graphics MIDGEF : Lots of comments, Jeff DeltaPower: Left brain -text AFA Bard : Alright! It's JOCK! Welcome! JOCKGILL : Good evening everybody DeltaPower: tongues or fingertips MIDGEF : I worked with Delta at McElwain on Friday MIDGEF : The kids were WILD! MaryEz : and the fight goes onYour mail has been sent JOCKGILL : So what happened? AFA Bard : [[[[[[[[[[[ Mary! ]]]]]]]]]]] AFL Gayle : Tell us what you did with it and them, Midge. MaryEz : Hi everybody. MIDGEF : They loved the lettering and "discovered" the K JOCKGILL : Greetings MaryEZ DeltaPower: At the same time, MF? MIDGEF : The classroom teacher taught the "basics" the day before MIDGEF : but not the Kaleidoscope MIDGEF : We let them figure out stuff alone AFL Gayle : And K does what? MIDGEF : K= four deltas JOCKGILL : What grade level MF? subject area(s) MIDGEF : I taught one kid to "fix" fill leaks with the textscreen MIDGEF : Grade 2 RagenT : Mrs. Benton? MIDGEF : The first project is always (Yes Ragen) free art time MIDGEF : As kids make pictures they teach each other MIDGEF : We had four computers going MIDGEF : and two tired teachers JOCKGILL : How long was your session? MIDGEF : Most of the day DeltaPower: In the next manual, I'll have animation made simple and screen savers made simple!!!Really simple! MIDGEF : She started before I got there and I did an hour RagenT : (I was testing in the basement,argh! I'm sorry I missed it!) DeltaPower: I hope to preview them right here in AOl! JOCKGILL : How much will the teachers continue w/o you? AFL Gayle : Everyone here knows everyone else, I think, but just for the chat log, our chat AFL Gayle : tonight is with Power Industries, Delta Drawing Today! with Jeff Borenstein and MIDGEF : This is the teacher who can do it without me (on the VCR tape, remember?) AFL Gayle : Jock Gill! You can find Delta Drawing Today 24 hours every day in Company AFL Gayle : Support, here in AED. Power Industries has a SPECIAL offer for the month of AFL Gayle : MARCH only for AOL users. Check it out! JOCKGILL : Thanks for the facts, just the facts DeltaPower: What a courteous bunch! MIDGEF : Ain't we cute? AFA Bard : You're most welcome, Jock. :) DeltaPower: No one is thrilled and amazed that DD animation and JOCKGILL : Anyone HERE not yet tried either the program or the demo? MIDGEF : Everyone smiles when working with Delta Drawing DeltaPower: flying screen savers is simple and fun:)? RagenT : What kind of response are you getting from the old DD users? AFA Bard : YES, Jeff! Tell us more! MIDGEF : Go Jeff! AFL Gayle : No, Jeff. We're all converts here! But we want to learn more. :) AFL Gayle : Flying screen savers? Tell us about that! JOCKGILL : Jeff, go for it -- we can post details in our support area latter! DeltaPower: Put your favorite drawing in F1... Then 4 simple commands in F2:^N ?R ^M ?L F1... then ^A. MIDGEF : Got that Ragen? DeltaPower: I mean ^N ?R ?M ?L F! JOCKGILL : Or load your favorite picture, make sure the last macro is closed, and then add Jeff's magic commands RagenT : Do harder than learning Greek! DeltaPower: Help! I can't type under pressure F! is F1 JOCKGILL : ... as the next macro JOCKGILL : ^n = new screen AFL Gayle : F1? Is that IBM you're talking, Jeff? Is there a translation for Apple users? JOCKGILL : ?R = random right between 0 & 30 degrees DeltaPower: F.. 1.. JOCKGILL : F1 = press F then press 1 AFL Gayle : Oh. OK. NO problem! Thanks! :) DeltaPower: so that's 6 simple commands... MIDGEF : That feels funny when I have to use the function key JOCKGILL : in general ? randomizes the next command JOCKGILL : ? is great for making a random walk a visual concept JOCKGILL : Make the abstract concrete DeltaPower: It really zips a long if you use a simple drawing. AFL Gayle : OK. So that's Flying Screen Savers, Jeff. What about the DD animation you AFL Gayle : mentioned? MIDGEF : (All my drawings are simple after 8PM:)) DeltaPower: You can tell I really love DD..and I'm still learning new capabilities. JOCKGILL : And we can make new ones up if you tell us what you want! DeltaPower: Everytime I see something new like"After Dark", I realize it is easier and nicer with DD. DeltaPower: After Dark is a popular screen saver. AFL Gayle : Right, Jeff. :) So even children can do screen savers with DD. :) JOCKGILL : Anyone out there using DMP math? MIDGEF : Maybe I can make Delta flying toasters AFA Bard : Delta "fish" are a must! AFL Gayle : DMP math? What is that, Jock? (Obviously, I'm not using it. ;) DeltaPower: First you make a toaster. The rest is easy! MIDGEF : I like that Bard! DeltaPower: We have 2 fish. Make ithem smaller . Don't fill. DeltaPower: You're in business. JOCKGILL : DMP math is a manipulative based math series from Delta Education == K - 6 AFA Bard : Great idea! DeltaPower: Tell us about DMP. AFA Bard : DMP stands for ????. JOCKGILL : DMP is used in Newton, Brookline, Concord etc in our Gretaer Boston area AFA Bard : (Welcome Joel!) RagenT : Yes, I would like to hear more being Chapter 1 math teacher. MIDGEF : I saw that catalog on the file at school and it seemed funny to see Delta DeltaPower: Hi Joel! AFL Gayle : (Obvously, not dot matrix printer in this context, Bard. ;) RagenT : Hey, Joel! AFL Gayle : Welcome, Joel! :) JOCKGILL : Developmental Mathematical Processes -- I think! DDToday works very well with it. AFA Bard : LOL, Gayle. :)) DeltaPower: DMP is clearer :) AFL Gayle : Have you ordered your special copy of Delta Drawing Today yet, Joel? 30% MIDGEF : I'll try anything to improve my math AFL Gayle : discount to AOL users for this month ONLY! The Apple // edition will work great AFL Gayle : on both your GS and Mac LC with //e emulation card. AFL Gayle : Go ahead, Jock. I want to hear about DMP. :) RagenT : Me too. I think Chapter 1 has money for software. JOCKGILL : A Newton teacher, Sheila Brach, has a three page summary of how DDToday and DMP work together JOCKGILL : If you like I can re=key it post it in our support area == or MIDGEF : And I don't have a copy of this? Not possible! Mail! JOCKGILL : Call Jeff at 1-800-395-5009 and ask for hard copy! AFL Gayle : Sure! Post it in your support area, please, Jock! :) MIDGEF : I am the "unofficial" Delta historian AFL Gayle : So what are your duties as historian, Midge? JOCKGILL : So I'll get a copy to Midge -- pronto, I want to live! Teacher jn: Now we're talking Of Course CHapt. I has sftwr. $$ & IF Chapt. I doesn't then Teacher jn: go for Chapt. II funds!! :)) MIDGEF : Keep one of everything in a BIG notebook! AFA Bard : Jock... what's this I've heard about coloring books? DeltaPower: I would LOVE to see the notebook. MIDGEF : Sure! Teacher jn: Can I see that Big book of yours Midgef! ??? MIDGEF : 605 Walnut St. Bridgewater Ma 02324 6Am to 5PM DeltaPower: In the next upgrade, we will put in a coloring book AFL Gayle : When is the next upgrade scheduled for, Jeff? Tell us more about the coloring Teacher jn: Have to ask my principal for a pass! To MA! No way! :((( MIDGEF : My school kids have decided to name "Howdy" and color him AFL Gayle : book, please. RagenT : I still want you to describe how the math and DD combine. Objectives! DeltaPower: directory with drawings that children cAn fill--or print out and color. What do you think? MIDGEF : Note on coloring AFL Gayle : Joel, leave home extra early and be in MA by 6 am. ;) AFA Bard : FANTASTIC! I love it! Teacher jn: That's the only way I'll be able to try to purchase DD, making Math related! or RagenT : and Chapter 1, you realize, requires behavioral objectives! Teacher jn: LOGO related!! MIDGEF : The kids find out fast that the printer can't print all the DHR colors AFL Gayle : Joel, it IS math related! Purchase away! Both Jeff and Jock posted the AFL Gayle : information for you in their area about how NYC approves of DD. AFA Bard : Welcome Jed! We're talking about DELTA DRAWING with Jeff and Jock! MIDGEF : I guess if Joel lives in NY I'll have to have a sleep over DDT party DeltaPower: We are also looking for drawings. Free software, Teacher jn: I know it's MATH related!! Just have to squeeze the $$ out of them! :((( AFL Gayle : Gee, this is certainly the night for the J's to visit. ;) DeltaPower: public recognition, eternal gratitude for the winners. MIDGEF : I'm good at squeezing Joel JOCKGILL : Here is a SHORT excerpt from Sheila's list of 'concepts' RagenT : Ok, Joel, math objectives, The children will be able to identify and draw RagenT : geometric figures. DeltaPower: Hi Jed ! Do you know about Delta? JOCKGILL : direction, measurement, size, repetition, turns (angle) corners (points, valleys) RagenT : That is a very basic math objective too, DD can do more. Jed Rink : A little, used to use it, but now a Mac RagenT : There we go Jock, thanks. JOCKGILL : deflection, volume, representation, lines, shape, color, filling Teacher jn: They learn how to filthy word (Prog. using DD) easier than Logo! JOCKGILL : curve, overlap, continuation, speed, positioning Teacher jn: Helps visualize work /w 3-D shapes figures! DeltaPower: The new version is light years ahead. No Mac version-yet--. DD works with LC with board. AFA Bard : Speaking of new releases, Jock. When do you expect a new release to hit the shelves? RagenT : (writing objectives furiously.....) Teacher jn: Whens the MAC version going to be released ?? MIDGEF : Ragen and I should work up Ch 1 math objectives for DDT Hmmmmm AFA Bard : (Specifically MY SHELVES, Jock! I wanna make fish!!!) RagenT : (GMTA) Teacher jn: Bd. of Ed. City of N.Y. big w /MAC LABS! AFL Gayle : No need to write furiously, Ragen! It's all in the log. :) JOCKGILL : Ask Jeff about new releases. Apple's impending death ray to the // family makes somethings hard RagenT : True... Teacher jn: Definitely Midgef Chapt. I remedial MATH no has Computers!!! AFA Bard : Death ray... you mean the shields aren't holding, Mr.Spock?? JOCKGILL : You want the 'related DMP topics with topic #s? DeltaPower: We will soon release a new Spanish version. D=Derecho and Sp keystrokes, menus. Teacher jn: Spent 15 yrs. asking for Computers in Remedial Math Chapt. I they so NEVER! RagenT : Our JH just ordered 10 MAC LCs WITH II e emulation cards... wonder why? MIDGEF : Wow! Better dust off my Spanish book Teacher jn: Now. that I left the computers are coming FAST & ferious! :)) DeltaPower: The prototype works like a translating machine. Put a drawing in inEnglish. Load Sp version.... JOCKGILL : The shields have been blasted DeltaPower: ...Out come Spanish commands. Amazing! Any interest? AFA Bard : Jeff, the Spanish version will first be released for MS-DOS computers, correct? RagenT : Really, JN, Chapter 1 in our town is the only place that can afford computers! Teacher jn: Easy question RagenT so they can use the Apple //e sftwr.!! Why else buy an LC MaryEz : Our school bought the first computer for Chapter I with Chapter I funds and now nobody else can use MaryEz : them. DeltaPower: Any ideas who would be interested? Should we bundle Eng and Sp together--or separate? RagenT : Hard to give up the IIe stuff, Joel. AFL Gayle : I would say together, Jeff. Most are either trying to teach English to the AFA Bard : Together, Jeff. I think the learning potential of a Spanish DD is incredible! A great idea! MIDGEF : Separate Teacher jn: Separate! So other Comp. is releasing a Spanish ver. of NMBP! in Spanish! AFL Gayle : Spanish speaking or vice versa. Would fit in well with the new push for ESL. DeltaPower: Initial version for MS_DOS correct. Our Argentinian partners wanted IBM. AFA Bard : Davidson, Joel? DeltaPower: NMBP?? AFL Gayle : LOL! Well, you got a definitive answer there, Jeff. 2 for separate; 2 for AFL Gayle : together. :) Teacher jn: Who else! Bard WE have to chat later, (seriously!) RagenT : City school systems that have bilingual schools AFA Bard : (Yes!) JOCKGILL : Somebody asked about users of older versions, we are selling many more to NEW users! Teacher jn: New MathBlaster Plus! Spanish! also, DD so run w/ WINDOWS! MIDGEF : I still want to make a DDT newsletter RagenT : (Me, Jock) AFA Bard : Uh oh... lost Mary. :( JOCKGILL : It amazes me that after 10 years most folks have NEVER heard of Delta Drawing Today! MIDGEF : It was our first piece of software JOCKGILL : How can we spread the owrd more effectively? RagenT : Midge, that might give teachers a sharing board of ideas, JOCKGILL : try; WORD DeltaPower: I think we ave the makings of a newsletter right here! AFA Bard : The best thing about DD is that you're still continuing to improve an already awesome product. Teacher jn: That's about the speed it takes to recognize good sftwr. Teachers are slow!! AFL Gayle : Well, I've seen your ads in A+/Incider, Jock. The best way to get the word out MIDGEF : Yes, a chatty one like this with tips and ideas AFA Bard : With each improvement, it's bring new ideas to the classroom. Talk about teaching an old dog new AFA Bard : tricks!! :)) AFL Gayle : is to get people, such as Midge, who are converts. Teachers spread the word in AFL Gayle : workshops on online better than any ads. MIDGEF : Teaching teachers is my life Teacher jn: Do you have prepared 'lessons/activities' including w/ the sftwr.??? RagenT : I can vouch for that! DeltaPower: and you're excellent at it ,Midge. Teacher jn: You have a career for LIFE! JOCKGILL : I love Midge! How do I find a Midge in every school district in America? Beam me up? MIDGEF : (Ragen my prize pupil) AFL Gayle : That doesn't mean don't use ads, too. :) AFA Bard : Welcome, Murray! MIDGEF : Well you could beam me or shrink wrap me in each package AFL Gayle : Yes, Joel! A wonderful teacher's guide comes with the software in a 3 ring RagenT : (What did I tell you, Jeff!) Teacher jn: I'm ready JockG! I love DD! TEACHER ms: Thanks, Bard !!! DeltaPower: There are lots of lessons and activities in every chapter. Also relatred lessons off the computer. AFL Gayle : binder notebook with laminated (GREAT idea!) cards. RagenT : I have heard that even JH teachers use DD effectively! MIDGEF : I give free disk sleeve command charts JOCKGILL : Joel why not share how you use the DEMO to teach while you wait for funds! DeltaPower: Teacher's Guide, included inthe package, was written by a wonderful teacher, Louisa Birch. AFL Gayle : Midge's disk sleeves are available for downloading in the Delta Drawing library Teacher jn: What to go contempory - use Midgef in a DD Video!! ;))) AFL Gayle : here online, too. AFL Gayle : Great idea, Joel! Other companies have an inexpensive or loaner video. That AFL Gayle : seems to help sell their products. MIDGEF : I'm funny looking and I laugh a lot..not good for video production RagenT : Baloney, Midge! Teacher jn: I have and it a MIXED Blessing because it frustrates my students! WE can't AFL Gayle : I think Midge in a room full of Delta drawing kids might do the trick. JOCKGILL : Midge you's be GREAT!!! DeltaPower: Great for vidseo! MIDGEF : God..where is my wrinkle cream! Teacher jn: save/ or print! BUT That's the way I judge the sftwr. if my students argue/ AFL Gayle : Joel, with the special offer, it's less than $50 this month! You can use the JOCKGILL : Any comments on "Whole Brain Software"??? Teacher jn: fight over the use of it it GOOD sftwr. and then I try to order it!! AFL Gayle : one package with all of the computers in ONE room. You can afford that! RagenT : (Could keep the camera at one level, she's no taller than her students:) AFL Gayle : LOL, Ragen! That's wicked. ;) MIDGEF : It's true AFL Gayle : Tell us about whole brain software, Jock. :) DeltaPower: WHOLE BRAIN SOFTWARE? Teacher jn: Hey if it were up to me I'd have it already! BUT I don't do the ordering or MIDGEF : A midge is a tiny gnat that never lets you alone RagenT : Whole brain software, using both sides at the same time? Teacher jn: control the $$$!! AFL Gayle : Buy your own personal copy, Joel. RagenT : We keep trying to swat at her but she never goes away! :) DeltaPower: Right brain-artisitic drawing------------------- left brain--analytical AFL Gayle : Thank goodness she doesn't, Ragen! We need her too much around here! DeltaPower: right brain-graphics screen Teacher jn: That's what 75% of the sftwr. I use in school is MY PERSONAL copy of sftwr!! :) JOCKGILL : Both sides, multiple learning styles -- are they the same? DeltaPower: left brai -text screen MIDGEF : Did you know that Polaroid in Boston gives an excellent seminar on right MIDGEF : left brain? RagenT : (let me guess, left brain-text screen) MIDGEF : Yes...such a smart student JOCKGILL : I took that seminar and it changed my life! MIDGEF : Not completely! AFA Bard : Have you taken the seminar, Midge? JOCKGILL : Is Whole Brain Software LOL or would you take it seriously? MIDGEF : Yes, they came to our school system DeltaPower: flip from text to graphics and back----analytical thining reinforces the esthetic. RagenT : I saw it too, very interesting! MIDGEF : I like " exceptional software for creative learning better" AFA Bard : Hmmm... is flipping better than combining? JOCKGILL : Or what about "Graphics Learning Software" -- what is your reaction? Teacher jn: Does Polaroid take the show on the road?? DO they ever come to NYC ?? DeltaPower: draw a picture/think a picture MIDGEF : I think so.. call them Teacher jn: ESFCL!! Now that's the way to go! JOCKGILL : Actually it isn't Polaroid, but one of their employees -- who is now an independent RagenT : I think most young people can use both sides but learn to use one side more MIDGEF : That's what I couldn't remember the man's name! RagenT : like learning left and right handedness. JOCKGILL : Manny ________ MIDGEF : Yup Teacher jn: Let's hear it for Manny! DeltaPower: Graphic learning: fun of drawing in order to learn skills. MIDGEF : Where is that notebook? Got to clean out this room! RagenT : To use both with software, would be to not neglect the side that is not RagenT : dominang. RagenT : dominant. JOCKGILL : Which phrase do you think PARENTS would relate to best? Teacher jn: That's my MOTTO in My Lab! "SERIOUS FUN!!" DeltaPower: To exercise both sides with the same program- Delta Drawing AFA Bard : parents? probably Graphic Learning Software. Whole Brain is a bit esoteric for most parents, I AFA Bard : think. AFL Gayle : My guess is Whole Brain Software would be what parents would relate to, Jock. MIDGEF : I don't think parents will know about Whole Brain (unless they make $$$) Teacher jn: The Gifted & Talented one! That's the NEWEST buzz wds. in Ed. today!! AFA Bard : LOL, Gayle! GM*D*TA! DeltaPower: Hello ms! RagenT : But, with G&T, parents with "normal" or non G&T kids may shy away. Teacher jn: Whole Brain sounds toooo 'Special Ed.ish! TEACHER ms: hello AFL Gayle : I was thinking of the parents not knowing the phrase itself. Parents would be MIDGEF : How about reviving the Champions for a brainstorm session with homemade AFL Gayle : attracted to the brain part of the phrase, but if everyone else votes for MIDGEF : goodies for brain food JOCKGILL : Whole brain or is it whole grain or birchenstocks & socks? Teacher jn: Never the want their kids to be considered 'special' & Tlaented they buy the AFL Gayle : Graphic Learning Software, go with that. :) AFA Bard : Hmmm... I dunno, Gayle. It's kind of like saying "whole mouth french fries" :))) RagenT : I like Graphic Learning Software. Kids love pictures. Teacher jn: sftwr. to find out if theirs can become G & T!! RagenT : LOL, Bard! MIDGEF : Edith!!!!! AFA Bard : Edith, Welcome to AED! JOCKGILL : Hi Edith JOCKGILL : 1 DeltaPower: sftwr to develop G & T ishness Teacher jn: Parents & Supervisor hate graphics!! Feel there's No EDuc. taking place!! DeltaPower: Hi Edith Glad to see you're here. JOCKGILL : Joel, that's VERY interesting! EdithL2 : Good to chat again! :) EdithL2 MIDGEF : We send the textscrren printout home with our kids as well as picture AFA Bard : Joel.. sounds like they need a "Whole Brain Transplant!" :)) Teacher jn: Way To Go EL2! :)))) DeltaPower: Graphics are used as a device to learn basic skills, problem solving. TEACHER ms: Creativity, JN :) Teacher jn: Thinking of offering Electric SHOCK for the Supervisors!! DeltaPower: Different fro m paint programs, which often is doodling...FUn for a while, but.. RagenT : Might have a point Joel. How about Visual and Analytical Software for Kids. MIDGEF : or early retirement JOCKGILL : Edith, what do you in Oklahoma like best about DDToday? Teacher jn: You don't have to tell me! I'm BIG on graphics, its the 'powers that be' who EdithL2 : I like the ease of teaching DDT to both children and teachers/adults! RagenT : Graphics is the semi-abstract stage in Piaget's model of learning. Kids need Teacher jn: don't understand where WE are coming from & moving to!!! JOCKGILL : You teach how many sections a day? DeltaPower: Edith has sent me wonderful photos of her kids.... RagenT : to link the concrete stage to the abstract stage thru the semi-abstract and AFL Gayle : Jeff, before we close for this evening, I notice on the list you posted of EdithL2 : I teach 8 classes a day, over 131 kids, grades 2-8. Edith RagenT : Delta Drawing is it. DeltaPower: They seem really absorbed and loving her class. Teacher jn: NOWs that has a nice ring analytical!!! AFL Gayle : topics, that we still haven't covered Explorer's Guide and creation projects AFL Gayle : with DD. Would you like to tell us more about those topics? DeltaPower: Analytical and beautiful..Back to whole brain. RagenT : Wow! Edith! EdithL2 : By creation projects, do you mean my themes, as SPRING THINGS? AFA Bard : Explorer's Guide... now THAT's intriguing! Teacher jn: Let's hear EG & CT!! MIDGEF : The Explorer's Guide is a special manual for home users JOCKGILL : Exp Gd can be used in sch too! JOCKGILL : Who knows who Ed Emberley is? DeltaPower: Explorer's Guide with plenty of examples..And we are actively looking for chikdren's examples. MIDGEF : I'd like to see a short manual kids can read by themselves EdithL2 : Midge, maybe this summer I can work on a kids' manual. DeltaPower: Everyone knows Jock and I can draw with DD. We would love to see your children's drawings. EdithL2 : Ed Emberley is an artist/author of books, isn't he? MIDGEF : Maybe Ragen and I can work on Chapter 1 kids DeltaPower: Edith sent us some: Fall, Black Cat, Sno Storm. Check your disk. JOCKGILL : Edith, right on. RagenT : Midge, Mrs. Tokarsky GIVES her kids the old DD manual. AFL Gayle : Ed Emberley!!!! I DO!! :)))) DeltaPower: Other children's Delta Drawing were displayed at NECC '91. So send us your drAwings. RagenT : ANd they figured out how to make patterns and spirals etc... AFL Gayle : So is the Explorer's Guide available yet? Teacher jn: Give Gayle a MAC! EdithL2 : Jock, when I have time, I may have some semi-automation kids' work to send you. AFA Bard : TooooooooooooooooooooooooT! MIDGEF : Not yet, Gayle...nedd a 48 hour day first DeltaPower: Soon AFC Tooter: Welcome Howdie alll!!! RagenT : Ok, Midge on the Chapter 1. JOCKGILL : Hi toot AFL Gayle : Oh. So this is Midge's special project! :) OK. :) Teacher jn: MY main man Tootarenoo!! :)) MIDGEF : Not alone! DeltaPower: Edith I have some new work on animation. Call me. AFL Gayle : Back to Ed Emberley, Jock! :) MIDGEF : I have 8 workshops to teach by May 10 AFC Tooter: Tootereeno???? :-))))) RagenT : Hi, Tooter! AFA Bard : What about Ed, Jock? AFL Gayle : You're right, Edith! :) MIDGEF : Well, Yawn..my bed time is here.. EdithL2 : What is deadline to send in work to be displayed at NECC? Teacher jn: Who/is Ed E., ??? DeltaPower: Now is the time to go to work. JOCKGILL : He is doing some VERY interesting DDToday work, which we hope to make generally available soon. AFA Bard : Great news! AFL Gayle : Ed Emberley is the favorite author for children who has tons of books on how MIDGEF : My right brain says sleep..my left brain says compute AFL Gayle : to draw various things, Joel. RagenT : (I think I have three of them checked out from the library!) AFL Gayle : Great news, Jock! :) Teacher jn: Like a Joh Negie! ??? MIDGEF : As soon as we pry Ed away from playing with DDT! Teacher jn: Have to ask our librianian! JOCKGILL : How about a 8' by 14' Deltoid, we come in peace, spaceship for your ceiling? MIDGEF : MY ceiling? AFA Bard : Wow!!! I want one!!!!! Awesome! AFC Tooter: Anyone who doesn't know Ed Emberley's books ought to find out immediately, kids or no kids. JOCKGILL : Who is Jon Negie Teacher jn: Now would be nice do you have any DD POSTERS ??? Educators love posters! AFL Gayle : You've got that right, TooT! :) MIDGEF : Jon Nagie was an artist on Boston TV who drew in steps in the 50's DeltaPower: Yes who? JOCKGILL : Ask Jeff! AFL Gayle : You can make your own DD poster, Joel! Just buy the program! :) Endless posters AFC Tooter: Didn't Negie used to teach painting on TV? DeltaPower: Soon, soon. EdithL2 : Posters would be great as freebie at NECC, Jock. Teacher jn: Jock, (I may have spelled his name wrong) He used to have TV show yrs. ago! MIDGEF : You were in Florida then Jock RagenT : Night everybody,my 3 year old lost his pajamas and skimply climbed onto my lap! AFL Gayle : It's true. Posters do sell products to teachers. RagenT : Goodnight! Teacher jn: He drew and you drew with him in the era of Winky & YOU! AFL Gayle : LOL! Good night, Ragen and child! :) MIDGEF : I made a Delta poster! AFA Bard : Nite Ragen! JOCKGILL : Good night JOCKGILL : ! AFC Tooter: No comparison, Joel. Negie taught advanced paint by numbers. EdithL2 : Night, all! MIDGEF : Good chat! AFA Bard : I'm outta here too, folks. For those that have come in late.. the edited log will be posted by AFL Gayle : Midge, maybe if you posted some of your files for posters in the library. Might AFL Gayle : help get others thinking. JOCKGILL : Good night, EL2 AFA Bard : tomorrow evening. THANKS JOCK & JEFF! DeltaPower: Animation..Let's exchange Edith. MIDGEF : Night ! Teacher jn: Nay Toot, no numbers- That's how I passed art I used his drawings! AFL Gayle : Thanks to all for attending, and a BIG thanks to our guests, Jock and Jeff from EdithL2 : suggestion--avoid 7 to 8 p.m. CST; you compete with MURDER SHE WROTE!! AFL Gayle : Power Industries, Delta Drawing Today! AFC Tooter: Just stopped in to say hello and goodbye. Now mostly goodbye. Bye all. 3/15/92 10:16:00 PM Closing file.