File: Chat Log 10/17/93
Date: 10/17/93
Start Time: 8:01:53 PM
End Time: 9:05:45 PM

Participants: AFA Bard, AFC Leni, AFC SteveB, AFL Gayle, AFL Marty, JeremyS314, MaryEz, SandyE, Susan G2

AFL Gayle  : Using AOL in the Classroom is the announced topic, but we'll discuss anything you want to related to education. :) Are you an educator, Jeremy?
JeremyS314 : In any classroom any grade
AFL Gayle  : What class and grade would you like to talk about, Jeremy?
Susan G2   : Hi
JeremyS314 : Not exactly gayle but I do teach other what I know I wish  AOL was avaible at my childrens elementary school
AFL Gayle  : All they need is a computer and a little bit of money per month to have AOL. :) Oh, a modem and phone line, too, I meant to say. What grades are your children in, Jeremy?
JeremyS314 : The moneys always seems to be the problem we have a modem and 4 macs LC2s My children are in K, 2, and 4th
AFA Bard   : Around here, Jeremy, the PTA's are paying for it.  They voted $250 for the initial install & $40/month (more than enough) for online time.
JeremyS314 : Where is around here
AFA Bard   : Just NE of Atlanta, GA.
AFL Gayle  : They can use a "regular" voice phone line, Jeremy, and for about $10 a month,
JeremyS314 : I live in san mateo CA some schools have 25 macinthoshes others have 2
AFL Gayle  : they can have an AOL account. Why the big difference, Jeremy?
JeremyS314 : Does AOL have someone who will come to schools and discuss AOL
JeremyS314 : The big difference is MONEY
MaryEz     : Hi, How are you all?!!
AFA Bard   : Not really, Jeremy, unless you want to buy us a plane ticket. :)  Seriously, usually there's someone
JeremyS314 : Some schools have it others do not
AFL Gayle  : Generally, someone local does it, like you, Jeremy. We can find "free" online
AFA Bard   : at your local technology conference doing a telecommunications presentation.  If they're wise,
AFL Gayle  : time for you if you do a demo.
AFA Bard   : they're doing AOL. :)
MaryEz     : Where are you from Jeremy?
AFL Gayle  : Susan, are you near Jeremy?
JeremyS314 : What would be great is if about 10-20 schools would go online
Susan G2   : Sort of.
JeremyS314 : MAryEZ I live in San Mateo, CA . Where do you live Mary
Susan G2   : I live in Visalia which is about three hours south east
MaryEz     : Branford, Connecticut.  I guess I can't do a demo for you!
AFL Gayle  : Jeremy, at the end of a ScrapBook, USA, session, sometimes the classes go 
Susan G2   : I will be in San Mateo in two weeks though talking about AOL for a CATESOL conference. Is there someon
JeremyS314 : I know about 2 schools that are online but thats because Apple computer paid for eveything
AFL Gayle  : online. Also, we have an Academic Bowl with about 8-10 schools participating.
Susan G2   : someone I can contact for you Jeremy to talk about AOL?
JeremyS314 : Guess not MaryEz
AFL Gayle  : Have you been in the Electronic Schoolhouse yet, Jeremy?
JeremyS314 : Yes susan our principal is Barabra Barnhardt 415 312-7544
Susan G2   : and what is your full name Jeremy? 
JeremyS314 : Jeremy smith
AFL Gayle  : Jeremy, does the school use the modem that they have for anything?
MaryEz     : Jeremy, ScrapBookUSA is now a part of our 6th Grade Language Arts curriculum.  All 3 teams do it
JeremyS314 : I havent been to Electronic Schoolhouse yet
MaryEz     : during the course of the year. 
Susan G2   : I will give a call.
JeremyS314 : I'm not sure Gayle i will check our department is brand new
AFL Gayle  : In ESH there are several school projects, Jeremy, including ScrapBook, USA.
MaryEz     : Once you learn the ropes there are many ways to save time and money.
AFA Bard   : Jeremy, another way is to arrange a demo yourself- set up an LCD panel & invite teachers & other
JeremyS314 : I do lean towards the macintosh side V.S PC which I dont like
MaryEz     : Including winning a free hour during this chat!!!
AFA Bard   : parents.  We can arrange for some "special guests" (like us) from around the country.  Makes for a great way to demo the service.
JeremyS314 : Well I've been trying to set up regular meetings but the schools has been a little slow
MaryEz     : Distance learning at its best!!!!
JeremyS314 : they have other funding problems but I will push it
AFA Bard   : Jeremy, why not offer to fund it for ONE MONTH, include a demo and see if they like it?
MaryEz     : It makes a great way for PTO to support you.
AFL Gayle  : It's an excellent way to cover several curriculum areas at one time.
JeremyS314 : I tols them my goal was to have a mac in everyclassroom so they could all go online with CNN and
AFA Bard   : My friend [[[[ Sandy! ]]]]
SandyE     : Hi All
JeremyS314 : they all laughed said we  would love to but its a dream
MaryEz     : Hi, Sandy!
AFA Bard   : Remember, Jeremy, telecommunications you can do with ONE computer!
SandyE     : Hi Mary...did I just read a Mac in every classroom..my dream also
JeremyS314 : The mac is so much easier for the students to use than pc
JeremyS314 : I know AFA Bard 
SandyE     : Amen Jeremy!
MaryEz     : Macs are wonderful!! I am sitting here in my recliner with my powerbook on my lap watching the
JeremyS314 : When i was in high school we had a TV for everroom so I think a mac is possible
MaryEz     : world series and talking to you guys! 
JeremyS314 : I have a MAC LC 2, Powerbook 160, and Quadra 950
AFL Gayle  : (Speaking of World Series, Bard and Sandy, what happened? ;)
JeremyS314 : Whats the score of the game
MaryEz     : We don't have a TV in every room yet, Jeremy! or a computer, for that matter but we do have AOL and
AFA Bard   : Sigh.  No comment. 
MaryEz     : one phone line.  Game just starting.
Susan G2   : I just got back from the CUE conference and listening to David Thornberg for two days. Sego and a cable tv company and pac bell are all merging. 
JeremyS314 : Are any of you attending Seybold S.F this week
AFL Gayle  : What did he speak about, Susan?
Susan G2   : The future of education 
AFL Gayle  : And the future is... ? (according to David?)
Susan G2   : He used AOL in front of about 2000 people as the way to access information teachers facilitating students accessing information
AFL Gayle  : Hurray for David T.!! :)
Susan G2   : He also said that there is a service called Express TV
MaryEz     : I hope he had a large monitor!!  @;->
AFL Gayle  : No, Jeremy. What's happening at Seybold SF?
Susan G2   : which gives you the wire services before the TV stations. 
JeremyS314 : I like AOL much better than Compuserve for use. I was turned on to AOL through San Jose Mercury News Well seybold is one of the best conferences in the US
Susan G2   : He said all schools should have a free hookup to this and to call our cable companies.
SandyE     : I'm back...it's not my night....bad Karma...anyone have time to fill me in?
AFL Marty  : Hello
JeremyS314 : Conference taught by Bill Gates,Tim Gill, Apple, John Sculley Adobe etcc plus latest equipment
AFL Gayle  : What that Express Exchange he was talking about, Susan? What=Was
Susan G2   : Maybe is that a cable service? It was express something 
AFL Gayle  : That's a service offered by some cable companies.
JeremyS314 : I think San Jose Mercury News has done a very good job promoting AOL
AFL Marty  : Does it work on Apple II computers as well?
JeremyS314 : Well I have to go make dinner for my kids have fun Bye
AFA Bard   : Strictly an AF trick, Susan. :) 
AFL Marty  : Be right back... I'm gonna get off this Mac thing.
AFC Leni   : Hello, friends :-)
SandyE     : Gayle, I hope I'm still on Bobaloo's (??) mailing list....The kids LOVED it
AFL Gayle  : Marty, you didn't have to leave. :) I could have told you it worked on my GS.:)
AFC SteveB : reMarty :)  I'll try it again... see how it works :)
AFA Bard   : I liked your old clothes better, Marty. :)
AFL Marty  : I much prefer the Apple II over the Mac.
SandyE     : Susan, I'm looking forward to meeting your teachers tomorrow night They sound like a brave, brave crew
AFC Leni   : Did Susan tell you all of the meeting of AOL West, this weekend? :-)
Susan G2   : I am looking forward to you meeting them to. And with this extra added feature.....
AFC Leni   : Susan's the brave one, Sandy :-)
Susan G2   : No, I haven't had a chance yet Leni
AFC Leni   : GA, Susan :-)
AFL Gayle  : AOL West? Do tell, Susan! :)
Susan G2   : Leni is better at it then I
SandyE     : Yes, AOL West, but some of us southerners are joining in.
Susan G2   : We meet. Kathhmb, Janehmb Leni and I meet=met
AFC Leni   : Susan, you are a great storyteller! :-)
Susan G2   : We met, we ate we drank we took pictures and we had a great time Not very descriptive, is it
AFL Gayle  : You didn't compute? :)
AFC Leni   : And Mr.Waterfall, and THAAG, and Connie MS....all at CUE!  
Susan G2   : We did that as well Right We visited the 21st century.
SandyE     : Hi Marty
AFL Gayle  : So what else happened at CUE besides this great gathering?
AFC Leni   : We played multiple computeres last night :-)
AFL Marty  : Hi Sandy
Susan G2   : This was what it looked like to me.
AFL Marty  : (delayed reaction :)
Susan G2   : But then I realized that the 21st century is here already. I am the one behind
AFL Gayle  : Not quite, Susan. 7 more years.
AFC Leni   : CUE was wonderful...Thornburg, Wagner, and other biggies....and little-ies, too :-)
SandyE     : Wagner...as in Roger?
Susan G2   : Leni did a wonderful presentation
AFC Leni   : Yep :-)
SandyE     : Leni, what did you present?
Susan G2   : So did Kathleen Ferenz
AFC Leni   : (that was to Sandy's comment, not Susan's)! Wizards to Waterfalls...Intergenerational Telecom.
AFA Bard   : Dave Thornburg is a stitch.  Did he tell his famous toilet story?
SandyE     : Great topic...I love the idea of linking kids to seniors
AFC Leni   : It went well...Bard, he is hysterical...but I don't recall that one :-)
SandyE     : Great topic-Wizards to Waterfalls, not toilet stories...although that does intrigue
AFC Leni   : :-)
SandyE     : OK Bard.  You're ON! Tell us the toilet story
AFC Leni   : Please!
AFA Bard   : He does a great story equating technology to a toilet seat... goes on and on asking folks what they'd do to IMPROVE one.. guess what people said they'd do to IMPROVE a toilet seat? (::: waiting for your answer ::)
Susan G2   : Should use the new game feature. but..
SandyE     : Make it make music when opened (like a PowerBook)
AFA Bard   : OK.. music... what else?
Susan G2   : very nice
AFL Gayle  : OOhhh... Sandy is equating her PowerBook to a toilet? ;)
Susan G2   : Let's wait for the answers
SandyE     : Well, you have to admit...the toilet WAS a fantastic invention...in its time
AFL Marty  : Cover it with fur
AFA Bard   : These are all great answers-- Thornberg's point is, though, that folks don't think BIG enough-- he says technology'
AFL Gayle  : (Where's Leni's answer? :)
AFL Marty  : Make them bigger to accommodate bigger bottoms? :)
AFL Gayle  : LOL, Marty! :)
AFA Bard   : is already there to do things like FULL MEDICAL DIAGNOSES just from testing your- er- well, you know. 
Susan G2   : (maybe she learned already and ran it)
AFA Bard   : Imagine your seat saying to you-- shouldn't have eaten those eggs this morning, sir, your
AFC Leni   : (hush!)
AFA Bard   : cholesterol count is 155!  He says we need to think further into the future and think BIGGER about how technology could be used in a classroom.  I'd say he's right, wouldn't you?
AFC Leni   : YES!
SandyE     : Agreed!!!
AFL Marty  : Will it give your weight and fortune too?
AFL Gayle  : Ohhh... great story! I'm going to use that with our Technology Committee at school! 
AFA Bard   : I want one that does stock quotes. :) 
AFL Gayle  : Uh oh... Online Enhancer just told me it's Meeting Time! ;)
AFA Bard   : Well- it's not ALL David's I think there are some Bard-isms there somewhere, too. ;)
AFL Marty  : Stock quotes?  What if the bottom drops out? :)
SandyE     : I'm not sure I could handle a talking toilet.  It's the last place on earth where NO ONE talks to me
AFL Gayle  : NEXT week, we WILL have 3D LOGO. as our topic! :) Mike promises to remember to come. :)
SandyE     : Marty!!! LOL  ROTFL
AFL Marty  : (or if you received bum information :D)
AFA Bard   : ROTFL, Marty!!!
AFL Gayle  : Good night all and thanks for coming! :)
SandyE     : G'nite all
Susan G2   : Good night